(pseudo) AI with RNG | How do we do it?

[Suspnded_Arr0w_Shaft]

So basically this removes the “|” and it would just be how1what2when3where4?

[Suspnded_Arr0w_Shaft]

@some_kid

The only thing I haven’t figured out is how we’ll detect how many entries there are in any given library so we can ensure that the random number selected is in the same range as the number of entries.

For this, we could have it run a check 50 times, and then randomInt will decrease by 1 everytime it returns 0

Oh wait , that would just leave us with the last word…

[some_kid]

Yep!
It’d be more like 0how1what2when3where though. Starting from 0 gives us 1 more number before we reach triple digits, which probably won’t ever be relevant, but still.

[Suspnded_Arr0w_Shaft]

We could have the property name be “lib132”, where lib(1)01 is the library number, and lib1(32) is the amount of words in that library.

Give me a bit to make the code

nevermind it wont let me put the block in cus its green

[Gimkitsuggestor]

Late to the party but this is my mojo
where is our starting point exactly what’s gonna be our first approach to test this and further on investigate upon this?

[Suspnded_Arr0w_Shaft]

Okay I will find all the posts for you to read so you know where we are at.

[Suspnded_Arr0w_Shaft]

https://forum.creative.gimkit.com/t/pseudo-ai-with-rng-how-do-we-do-it/185827/30?u=suspnded_arr0w_shaft

https://forum.creative.gimkit.com/t/pseudo-ai-with-rng-how-do-we-do-it/185827/31?u=suspnded_arr0w_shaft

https://forum.creative.gimkit.com/t/pseudo-ai-with-rng-how-do-we-do-it/185827/41?u=suspnded_arr0w_shaft

https://forum.creative.gimkit.com/t/pseudo-ai-with-rng-how-do-we-do-it/185827/73?u=suspnded_arr0w_shaft

https://forum.creative.gimkit.com/t/pseudo-ai-with-rng-how-do-we-do-it/185827/87?u=suspnded_arr0w_shaft

I didn’t link them because it was really cluttered…

[wolf.rising2025]

Testing f@iled. Please can you explain why?

[Gimkitsuggestor]

Wolf.rising as my ADHD will not let me go to each and every link suspended gave
me can you just summarize what you guys understand rn

[Suspnded_Arr0w_Shaft]

100TH POST

@Gimkitsuggestor
What we have right now is just a giant random number-generating machine.

Basically, we set how as the only response for the AI.
BUT
We want a more linguistic approach, so instead of just printing “how”, it finds related words in a library corresponding to “how” (001-001-001-001)

example:

@Suspnded_Arr0w_Shaft

Here is a library (property edition):

how|||||||||||||method||||||||||approach||||||||way|||||||||||||strategy||||||||methodology|||||technique|||||||manner||||||||||system||||||||||tactics|||||||||style|||||||||||recipe||||||||||plan||||||||||||process|||||||||fashion|||||||||form||||||||||||tack||||||||||||program|||||||||mode||||||||||||model|||||||||||route|||||||||||policy||||||||||scheme||||||||||design||||||||||practice||||||||layout||||||||||move||||||||||||blueprint|||||||game||||||||||||shift|||||||||||plot||||||||||||routine|||||||||

BUT

@some_kid found a much more compact and storage-efficient way to store a library. Check the below quote.

@some_kid

Alright. Here’s what I came up with.

Obviously, you don’t really need to have the variable entryIndexOne, and you can just put that directly in the entry chooser block, but thought it was better for readability.
I am uncertain if blocks automatically convert numbers to strings for functions that require strings as parameters, but I played it safe.

Essentially, what it does is it finds the random number that was generated, and jumps a couple characters ahead based on how long the number is. Then, it finds where the next number is, and sets that minus one (so that it doesn’t include of the number itself in the output) as the ending point of the string. Then, it just gets the substring between those two numbers.

The if statement is so that if the entry selected was the last entry, it will automatically set the second endpoint of the substring to the end of the property. This is so that you don’t need to put an extra number into the property, and you can save 2 characters.

The only thing I haven’t figured out is how we’ll detect how many entries there are in any given library so we can ensure that the random number selected is in the same range as the number of entries.

What we are working on is finding the max integer, but this new setup could technically increase our word count by a whopping 256x. (this is assuming each library contains “a” for each word, which would be silly, but this is all still theoretical so…)

[some_kid]

Technically, the setup has less than 256 entries, because after 9, our entries need more than 1 digit for the index.
We’re storing our libraries in text properties as their default value. Libraries look like this:
0and1additionally2also3in addition4secondly and so on.

[Suspnded_Arr0w_Shaft]

@Suspnded_Arr0w_Shaft

What we are working on is finding the max integer, but this new setup could technically increase our word count by a whopping 256x.

@Gimkitsuggestor
To put this into perspective, our previous max word count was 4096.

The average length of a word is 5.1 characters so lets plug that in.

512 / 5.1 = 100.392156863

100.392156863 x 4096 = 411206.27451

411206 max word count
The OED only has ~600000 words. Thats 68% of the english dictionary we could use!

Disclaimer: Number is not accurate AT ALL
This is because:

1. as @some_kid stated, after 9, we use double-digits
2. Not all words are 5.1 letters long…

[some_kid]

512 / 5.1 would be the number of words we can have per property, not taking into account the numbers we use to index them. Instead of multiplying that by our previous max word count, we’d multiply it by the number of properties we have available to use, which would likely be ~124 considering we use properties for more than one thing.
So, taking into account our property limit and our indexes, we can store ~9,069 words.
I got this figure with 512 / 7 * 124. The lack of a .1 on the end of 7 is due to the 10 single-digit indexes we get per library.
Consider that, in order to achieve this figure, we have to use every space in every library, which likely wouldn’t be feasible due to each library only containing a specific type of thing, like superheroes or Gimkit device names.

[Suspnded_Arr0w_Shaft]

Okay so I am really good at math trust.

I might be able to work on the AI later.

Please update me with any ideas!

NOOOOOOOOOOOO @kormorant GOT SUSPENDED I MIGHT ACTUALLY CRY

We really needed korm banned thanks jeffy they was creating lots of dissent and clutter and ruining the forums

literally one of the people who shouldve been made TL4 is now temp-banned

lol wait korm is unsuspended on my birthday.
My birthday present is korm

[Suspnded_Arr0w_Shaft]

@some_kid I think I found a way to get the length of a library.

I feel like this is too simple though, so correct me if i am wrong.

[some_kid]

When I said the length of the library, I meant determining how many entries are in it.
Sorry if what I said was confusing!

[Suspnded_Arr0w_Shaft]

Hmmmmm

So what if we have a loop to count the numbers in the property starting at 1, and ending when it returns 0/false

Then that will broadcast to the library searcher, and tell it what to roll

[some_kid]

That does work. You’d just have to set up a property so that the library searcher can get the information from the loop.

[Suspnded_Arr0w_Shaft]

Heres what i have

gonna test it now