How to Make a ‘Seconds Survived’ Leaderboard for Classic Tag

Couldn’t find a specific guide on this that works with classic tag, (others only work with infection or with a permanent tagger), so decided to make one!

This is for ‘Single Tagger’ tag, where you only have 1 tagger. No infections or anything. Just when a tagger tags, the person tagged becomes ‘it’.

Supplies

You will need the following:

1x Lifecycle

1x Repeater

2x Relays

3x Triggers

1x Tag Zone

2x Counters

2x Properties

And some time!

Sorry if this is unnecessarily complicated, I’m still quite new to GimKit creative. There may be a simpler way out there that works just fine, but I found this to work!

Also, you may want to label your devices, as there will be a lot of them.

Property Settings:

Lifecycle:
Event Game Start

Repeater:
1s interval
Stop after receiving on channel

Relay 1 (runner team relay):
Specific team audience to Team 1 (or whatever team is running)

Relay 2 (tagger team relay [post tag]):
Specific team audience to Team 2 (or whatever team is tagging)

Trigger 1 (stop repeater trigger):
No delay
Invisible and collisions off
Global scope
Can only be triggered once
Any team trigger

Trigger 2 (no delay trigger):
When triggered transmit on [trigg]
Trigger when receiving on [trigg]
No delay
Invisible and collisions off
Player scoped
Any team trigger

Trigger 3 (delayed trigger):
When triggered transmit on [trigg]
Trigger when receiving on [trigg]
1s delay
Invisible and collisions off
Player scoped
Any team trigger
Blocks! (we’ll get into that later)

Tag Zone:
Team 2 taggers (keep teams consistent)
No respawn when tagged

Counter 1 (seconds counter):
0 starting value
Invisible
Player scoped
Update ‘seconds’ property
No target value

Counter 2 (tags counter):
0 starting value
Invisible
Player scoped
Update ‘tags’ property
No target value

Property 1 (seconds):
Name, Seconds (or whatever you want)
Number data type
Defaults at 0
Player scoped

Property 2 (tags):
Name, Tags (or whatever you want)
Number data type
Defaults at 0
Global scope

Wires:

Lifecycle > Repeat – Event occurs, start repeater
Screenshot 2024-06-13 3.40.49 PM

Repeater > Relay 1 (runner team relay) – Repeater runs, trigger relay
rep to rel

Relay 1 (runner team relay) > Seconds counter – Relay trigger, increment counter
rel to count

Tag Zone > Relay 2 (tagger team relay [post tag]) – Player gets tagged, Trigger relay
tag to rel

Tag Zone > Trigger 1 (stop repeater) – Player gets tagged, trigger
Screenshot 2024-06-13 5.17.22 PM

Relay 2 (tagger team relay [post tag]) > Trigger 2 (no delay trigger) – Relay trigger, deactivate trigger

Trigger 1 (stop repeater) > Repeater – Triggered, Stop repeater

Trigger 2 (no delay trigger) > Trigger 3 (delayed trigger) – Triggered, trigger
Trigger 3 (delayed trigger) > Trigger 2 (no delay trigger) – Triggered, trigger
trig to trig

Trigger 3 (delayed trigger) > Relay 1 (runner team relay) – Triggered, trigger relay

Blocks

Trigger 3 uses blocks. Here is the block used!
Screenshot 2024-06-13 11.00.15 AM

Additionally, I have been informed that a more memory efficient way of doing this exists with a checker. Please do note this!

How and why this works

This section will explain how everything works in my mechanism and why it needs to be there.

Devices are in caps, so you can see them easily.

LIFECYCLE. This starts the initial REPEATER so that seconds are counted from the start of the game. This then connects to the REPEATER to repeat these initial seconds, with a 1 second delay. Then it is filtered through RELAY 1 so that the seconds only increment for players on a specific team (in my case, the runners).

Now usually that’d be the end (plus another relay and lifecycle to stop when you get tagged). This does work…with infection maps. However, with classic tag, the tagger doesn’t stay ‘it’ after they tag. They become a runner. That tagged runner then becomes it. This causes a problem with the aforementioned example, because it doesn’t stop the original ‘it’ from gaining points, and if they are re-tagged, both player’s counters stop going up, regardless of their team. With classic tag, we want the runners’ counter to move up and the tagger’s to pause.

So, simple, just add another LIFECYCLE (or connect directly to the Tag Zone) to continue when you tag someone else and connect that to the REPEATER, right? Well, no. This causes a small problem where the original LIFECYCLE message is still repeating, and adding another LIFECYCLE adds another message to repeat, so it increments the COUNTER by 2 instead of one. Not ideal.

So, in comes the TRIGGER(s). TRIGGER 1 stops the repeater after a tag so that the double signal problem doesn’t happen. After that, we can make your standard trigger clock (2 triggers acting like a repeater but better). Then, using a RELAY connected to a TAG ZONE, we can deactivate the undelayed TRIGGER for the taggers, leaving the COUNTER active for only the running team. The best part about the TRIGGER clock is that it will continue to increase points for members of the running team, and due to there only being a deactivating RELAY for another team, the double signal will no longer happen. But how does the TRIGGER clock even know when to start?

For this, channels and the ‘tags’ PROPERTY will be important. The creation of the ‘tags’ PROPERTY lets us know when the starting REPEATER has been deactivated by the first tag. Then we need a way for the 3rd delayed TRIGGER to detect that. You have two options. You can either go the long and less memory efficient way of adding blocks to said TRIGGER, or you can use a checker. Either way does its job. It tells us that the first tag has happened (which has deactivated the REPEATER), meaning that the clock can now start.

You will also need to change your scoring settings for the seconds to show up, if you haven’t already. Open ‘Map Options’, go to ‘Score’, and input these settings:

Final result (with labels)

That’s it!

All the best,
-Cloudy

with a chance of meatballs

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Nice guide! Coming into the community with a bang (kinda?)! Anyways, here is some criticism-ish:
Please Never Use Repeaters (and a guide on looping)
And Pictures Are Powerful !!!I
I recommend using dropdowns so the post isnt too long and users can go to whatever part of the guide they want.


I do like how you added so much detail and turned a past idea and modified it into something better!

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Great guide!
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Thank you very much! I’ll definitely add dropdowns from now on, completely forgot about them

Also, i am aware about repeaters sucking, and i probably could have used a trigger clock, but i found repeaters to be sufficient for that task, and i didnt want to mess up the system i finally made work xd

Edit: Will probably modify this post to add images and dropdowns soon

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T minus 23 hours

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The race begins!

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Great guide! I use this system so much that I didn’t even think about creating a guide on it.

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You can just use a checker for this part to save memory

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Yes. Yes they could.

I never thought about that! That makes much more sense

Added dropdowns and categories, it looks so much better now! Thanks for the advice

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Way better! Thanks!!

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Awesome guide, @CloudyWater!

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